build with kwik & corona cards

CoronaCards (Corona in native apps) CoronaCards for iOS / Android
#21

Odisej - as a quick initial check - have you been able to run a simple sample app in CoronaCards and have it working fine?

#22

Yes, we were able to run flappybat app in coronacards.

#23

Odisej - Since we cannot directly support Kwik, we have not tested a Kwik-made app in CoronaCards. What probably needs to be done is some investigation of the features you are using and which may be using an API that is not supported in CoronaCards. Have you tried stripping out a few of the main things to see if that allows it to work?

#24

Odisej - to be clear we are not saying this will not work. We are saying that it’s just a matter of narrowing things down slightly to figure out which one is the offending API. It may not be much work - just some experimenting back and forth by stripping out sections of the app in Kwik.

Conceptually it should work - but clearly Kwik is using some API that is causing problems in CoronaCards. This of course assumes that it is otherwise set up correctly.

That’s why I would suggest the following:

  1. Do a *very* simple Kwik app and see if that runs on CC

  2. Then add high level functionality (nothing fancy) a step at a time and see where it stops working

That should fairly quicky lead to some sense of what is causing the issue.

#25

so, we tried with very basic build - one page, no animation no interaction but we still get the same error.

we are using latest corona sdk and corona cards.

#26

David/Rob,

Let me politely disagree with your comments about “__Since we cannot directly support Kwik, we have not tested a Kwik-made app in CoronaCards.”, especially because I have seen it already in other forums.

 

An app made with Kwik is not different than an app made “manually” by a developer so, I honestly do not understand how you are not even able to take a look at the main.lua file. Would you check that if the user haven’t mentioned “Kwik made app”?

 

Anyways, I opened the basic project (it is super basic in fact, just 1 page with images positioned) sent by OUR customer. I am not familiar with Corona Cards, as I told you before so, maybe what I say here is not 100% accurate, especially not having further details from their Documentation page on what can or cannot be done. The only thing I found in the main.lua:

  • Kwik adds code to control the Back button on Android (lines 34 till 54 - well documented in the code), which uses CL native.* api - you may try to remove it to see if your project will work.

 

Again, a quick look - less than a minute, and your team would catch that!

 

I cannot change your opinion/policy/whatever but, I thought it would be interesting to share my views here. I really don’t think it is fair to a Corona customer (after all Kwik users are Corona customers) to get a reply back saying you are not even opening their projects.

 

Regards,

Alex

#27

Alex,

Our response to this had nothing to do with this being a Kwik app. We are pretty consistent in the forums about not being able to open everyone’s project and giving customized support. If we did that, there would be little time for anything else.

Our response here was to request that the customer narrow down the issue as much as possible. And that is what we always request of people - to narrow things down to where we can give actual help in the forum or be able to identify a possible bug or other issue.

If in this case it was only a minute of time, it could have equally been 30 minutes of delving through code to figure something out. There is no way of knowing ahead of time. And doing that for everyone that has an issue on our forum would be prohibitive.

So that is where we are coming from.

#28

David, 

Giving lots of support myself, I really understand how painful it can be (specially in your case, being MUCH bigger than Kwiksher). The reason I wrote the text above is because Rob asked a small project to be sent for the Bug Report team.

Cheers!

#29

So, here is update on this problem…

 

Thank you Alex for your input, hopefully we will reach the solution soon, we are still not giving up on this issue. 

 

We removed lines from main.lua , 34 to 54 which were meant for Android, we also removed android part from build.settings, but still found no luck, even if we tried our simple one image demo build with no interaction and animation :( 

 

Flappybat demo for corona cards (we can open flappybat) is using storyboard but our build is made using composer - is corona cards ok with composer?

#30

Odisej - I’ll see if someone can take a look at this sometime today or tomorrow. Again, the problem is that we have no idea how long this is going to take and we can’t do this individualized support.

Do you have a sense of what are the APIs that are being called in a very simple Kwik project?

#31

Thank you David. I am sending a simple build made with kwik on your email - I hope you will be able to solve the problem.

#32

Odisej - the last part of my message was also a question: when you create a simple Kwik project, have you seen which APIs are being called by quick in the resulting Lua file? Any chance you have a list of those?

#33

Here is a list of APIs that are not supported in CoronaCards:

http://docs.coronalabs.com/coronacards/index.html#sdkenterprise-compatibility

Alex - from a quick pass, does a standard Kwik project call any of these APIs?

#34

Odisej,

You don’t need the media api for playing audio. Media will be required for recording audio in your app, which does not seem to be the case here.

David, this is what Kwik may be using, depending of the project. For example:

  • projects with Ads will use the ads api;

  • projects with in-app purchase will use the store api;

  • same for the native (projects taking screenshots of canvas pages, rate app, fonts use the native.systemFont, textInput uses keyboard, map view, video and web view, showAlerts, cancelAlert/requestExit on Android projects) and media (for projects with video and recording audio) apis (I sent this info to Odisej a few days ago):

#35

Thanks guys - although the question is not so much which APIs could be used under other circumstances. Rather, if any of the “missing” APIs are being used by default in a simple Kwik project. Is that the case by any chance?

If it isn’t that, perhaps it might be something around memory management, or events?