From The Blog: Corona Labs annual update

So much passion in this thread :smirk:

I could only hope to reach such heights, as to be between ‘profitable and really-profitable’!  

Your Glitch Game apps are very good.  Thought you were both millionaires by now. Of course the mobile market is already way-different now from say 10 years ago; so even really good games/apps might not be 'profitable to the level of ‘serious money’.  But, I think your games are top level professional!

Haha thank you for saying so! No we are definitely not millionaires yet.

@stalxerhd - I hear you but I believe the the new MIT open source applied to Corona will allow anyone to build on the current open source parts of Corona without restrictions and without a requirement to add their work to the open source portion.  So, in theory, someone could take the Corona repository, fork it into their own new platform and start charging for it.  Of course, that would be exceedingly difficult but, I believe, legally viable.

Do I understand the new licensing correctly?

FYI, Corona is up for sale/partnership if there are any takers.  Please note the OP…

We sincerely hope that Corona can continue to thrive and that our great community can be more involved in its future. If there is anyone who would be interested in volunteering, a partnership or acquiring Corona Labs , please, contact us by emailing support@coronalabs.com.

Well, technically the MIT license means that anyone could fork the entire Corona repository, rename it to “Awesome Sauce - The Engine” and then to sell it for profit. Once the offline builds are done, then doing so wouldn’t even be all that difficult since everything that is required would be available on GitHub.

The MIT license is very lax in that its only two requirements are that you must include the MIT license and copyright notices if you use the code in your projects. In other words, you could just fork Corona, add the license and copyright notices somewhere in there and then redecorate the project to look like your very own “Awesome Sauce - The Engine”.

So, choosing to “redesign the UI” and such would take some work, depending on how thorough you’d want to be, but if you didn’t care about that, it’d be as simple as “fork, download, make sure the license and copyright notices are there, build, done”.

Still, there are plenty of valid reasons as to why it wouldn’t be sensible to just do that and why anyone who might try it would face difficulties.

You’re touching on something that occurred to me when the license change was announced. At the time, I figured I’d just keep quiet and see how everything unfolds, but since this just became the topic…

As far as I understand it with GPL licensed software - and for the record QWeb built a GPL e-commerce framework about 8 years ago that’s still around now so I’d like to think my understanding of the license is reasonable - a project that’s been licensed under the GPL cannot be relicensed under anything else. GPL is a copyleft, not a copyright. It effectively prevents anybody with access to the source from claiming ownership to it which in turn prevents the ability to relicense it.

That said, Google took the open source Chromium browser, rebranded it as Chrome, and released it as a closed source software under a different license so clearly there’s a loophole in the concept somehow.

I suppose it could be argued that when Coronalabs switched to a dual license, the GPL variant was set up as a fork so the new MIT variant could be a new fork of the original closed source variant rather than the GPL copy? But then, any development that was pushed to the GPL variant independently would have to not exist in the MIT copy if this one is a fork of the original, as that would have been a GPL licensed addition.

At the end of the day nobody is going to file a dispute about any new variant being in breach of the GPL branch but the logistics of all of this does baffle me somewhat.

Right now, I find it somewhat difficult to find the link for becoming a Github sponsore. To help with getting it more exposure I think the link should be placed onto the Git for Corona or some other prominent place:  https://github.com/sponsors/shchvova. Also, is there a way to sponsor an entire product (not just a specific individual? 

I was thinking the exact same thing. If i give 50 to schova and at some point 300 people have done so as well, would schova get 15000 minus costs and taxes or would some part of that go to another developer?

15000 ( assuming dollars? ) wouldn’t sustain a full-time salary.

Well, depends. If it is 15,000 USD per month, then that should be plenty enough after all taxes and other deductions. But, I would first focus on getting to such a comfortable figure. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes. It is difficult to find link to sponsor right now. We are still getting payed, and Corona is under Appodeal’s caring wing. I won’t fight off money, but we are not dependent on the contributions for now. We would add links to the main repo, and more information on funding model as it would get closer to the May. At this point I have confidence that given a call to action we would be able to have Corona a full time job.

For now we have a lot of things to do. Thank you so much for your generous support.

Also, we got emails from several companies & individuals pledging to support crowdfunding. But also, usually crowdfunding works better with crowds. So don’t shy away to chip in, even if it would be a cup of coffee, when the time comes.

I am extremely grateful for your support, and in any case I would try super hard so you can continue to ship your games or make them for fun. I love you, and I won’t let you down. For now we have job to do.

We was thinking about how corona would be going forward. And to be honest, I would welcome any 3rd party Stores integration. We have many talented developers in community (duh!) and some of you suggested making their own marketplaces. I don’t see anything wrong with it, more than that, I would welcome the opportunity for plugin creators to profit. Closure of the store is really the saddest part of the whole enterprise. But I hope new store would be getting up soon-ish.

Saying that, https://docs.coronalabs.com/ is now fully migrated to, and automatically deployed from the GitHub repo. People was reporting it is way more responsive now :slight_smile:

Oops yea, for some reason I was thinking yearly contributions. Blame toddler induced sleep deprivation :slight_smile:

@Graham - been there   :wink:

I just wanted to add that I have been using Corona for the past 10 years and that I am not going anywhere. I love using this software.

Making games in Corona is honestly one of the great joys of my life. I look forward to it every day.

I actually kind of like that it will be Vlad and a small team of people working on the engine. It feels more nimble to me. I can understand that maybe a larger team would be able to add more features more quickly, but not necessarily. Too many cooks and all that.

My first professional job was as an animator at a company called Berkeley Systems. I worked on screen saver software called After Dark. At the time, it was one of the most successful software franchises i the world. It was installed on millions of computers. And we also had a trivia game called You Don’t Know Jack that was constantly doing battle with Quake week after week for the number 1 position.

We had aquariums everywhere, 100 or so employees, and a huge spiral slide that went from the second floor down to the cafeteria. And a huge snack budget. The fridges and cabinets were always full of free candy bars, cookies, crackers, soda, etc. etc. - it was great. They went out of business a year or two later.

Then I was a Flash developer for years and year. That was great too. I started Fire Maple Games by making games in Flash, wrapping those games in software called mProjector to make .exes and selling them on my website. It was very successful.

It seemed everyone was using Flash at the time. I went to several Flash developer conferences and they were sold out. Thousands and thousands of developers there. The hotels would be sold out around the events. It was crazy. Adobe bought Macromedia for 3.4 Billion dollars to acquire Flash. Now Flash is pretty much gone.

Technology is so fickle. I still can’t believe that Atari, Commodore, Kodak, Nokia, etc. etc. are out of business. it’s crazy.

So whatever it takes to keep this software alive and viable as long as possible  - I’m in.

As a Finnish person, I feel like it is my national duty to inform you (and everyone else) that Nokia is still very much in business. They are even making phones again! :stuck_out_tongue:

@XeduR @pryric - haha forgive me! 

Were you responsible for the flying toasters?  :smiley:

Your post brought back a lot of memories.

Fire Maple Games - have always loved your games. Beautiful graphics, storylines and very enjoyable puzzles. Glad to hear you’re sticking around.

@schizoid2k - I helped work on them but  Iam not responsible for them :slight_smile:

It was a very interesting job. We were trying to entertain people while they were away from their computers. :smiley:

@keystagefun - thanks so much!