Parse is dying - now what?

I’m not really an expert in servers either. But in my research to find out if Coronium fit my needs, I asked Chris about how it would work with autoscaling servers on Amazon (meaning automatically adding more servers for load balancing during peak usage times). The impression he gave me was that it wasn’t really meant to scale that way. I could be wrong however. I asked the question a while ago, it might be in the Coronium support forums. I’ll have to dig it up later.

@_Vince

I have no experience with scalabilty for millions of user, but if this is the case hopefully the upcoming Corona Cloud will improve in this area. Looking forward to see what CC will bring.

@Robert Burns

Here is the link to my question in the old Coronium support forums:

http://forums.coronium.io/discussion/comment/582#Comment_582

Thanks Vince, I appreciate it. I’ll try to dig up some information in regards to what Develephant posted.

Has anybody had a look at this?

https://playfab.com

I found this link about ‘playfab’ the other day … other then what is in this article I know little about it.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/09/playfab-backend-ops-company-now-has-a-free-tier-for-game-developers/

I also found this possible alternative to parse:

https://heroiclabs.com

I know little more then what their website explains.

I am thinking to keep with parse for a little while and then decide wether to use one of these alternatives, or maybe I get a digital ocean droplet and manage my own.  So much of these types of stumbling-blocks distract from time needed to design and code the actual app.  ugh!!

Maybe someone, with a lot more Baas experience can chime in with some suggested options.

Bob

PlayFab looks really interesting.

We’ve been using BrainCloud (http://www.getbraincloud.com) for one of our games, and so far its pretty good. Privately funded and responsive to technical questions and suggestions.

Hi all,

I’d like to caution everyone to consider waiting a bit before jumping.

The fact is this (and I said it 2 years ago when I started Coronium), if you’re serious about your business, then you need to “own” your systems. Coronium currently is the most simple and easy-to-use stand-alone free  and unlimited cloud that works one-to-one with Corona SDK available. If you haven’t taken the 5 or so minutes it takes to install on AWS, I recommend you do so. It’s charm is in its deceptively simple API and parity with Corona SDK.

Coronium can scale big. It runs on Nginx (as does Netflix, Pinterest, SoundCloud, GitHub, etc.) I use a suggestion of small to medium projects because its more than just scaling. You need to know how to scale. And that went beyond the scope of what I was providing.

With all that said, don’t leave out the upcoming Corona Cloud. A project I’m so excited about that I can barely sleep. :slight_smile: By offering a hosted and self-hosted option, we’ve got you covered in any event. Stay tuned.

#screenshotsaturday

Cheers.

Q1) What will the future of Coronium with Corona cloud coming along?

Q2) how does Coronium handle use based security reads and writes (app based API tokens or per user and app based tokens?

Q3) does the SQL query handle parameter based queries?

I thank you for developing Coronium my only problem is AWS is expensive (compared to your own server linked to a Mongo or CouchDB farm).

Hi FearTec,

I’ll answer to the best of my knowledge at this time:

Q1 - Corona Cloud == Coronium 2. There will be a hosted and self-hosted version. Eventually Coronium 1 will reach EOL status, so there will be no more updates, or support (in general).

Q2 - If I understand the question correctly, Coronium 1 only supports a “single” app. But through the use of cloud code, other users have leveraged it for multiple apps. A token is assigned to the “app/API”, and a User registration system also employs a token for user sessions. CC offers distinct multiple apps, which are paired with an API key, app key, and optionally a client key.

Q3 - Not on Coronium 1 (as far as I know - I’m mostly Mongo), its been brought up before, but I’m not sure if a solution was found. I’ll make sure that this is on the list of requests.

Something important to note is that Coronium as it stands, is not Corona Cloud. There are advancements being made in almost every category, as well as some new features.

I thank you for developing Coronium my only problem is AWS is expensive (compared to your own server linked to a Mongo or CouchDB farm). 

There is also a Ubuntu installer available as well if you want to skip AWS.   

Hope that helps answer your questions. Suggestions and feature requests are always appreciated.

Cheers.

How easy is the transition Coronium 1 to Coronium 2 going to be? I haven’t started implementing my backend with Coronium 1, should I wait until Coronium 2 is released? Do we have an ETA on the release?

Thanks,

I just got this in my inbox.

Parse a company that assists developers make cross platform mobile apps is shutting it’s doors

http://blog.parse.com/announcements/moving-on/

Web Archive Snapshot before they killed the site:

http://web.archive.org/web/20151120012528/https://parse.com/

Products:

http://web.archive.org/web/20151117012946/https://parse.com/products

Documentation:

http://web.archive.org/web/20151117013019/https://parse.com/docs

I guess they ran out of money.

Oh jeez that’s like the 4th big back end provider to shut down in the past couple years. I thought Parse had staying power especially with all that Facebook money. With Parse shutting down frankly it makes me nervous to commit to any other 3rd party providers. Seems like self managed servers are the way to go.

Oh and one more thing, I think their pricing scheme was atrocious. It jumped from 0 to $200 per month once you went past the free tier. And the price was mainly based on number of API calls. I’m sure people were doing what they could to limit the amount of API calls. I honestly think it should be based on number of devices like how GameSparks does it.

Their scheme was atrocious. Going from Free to 100%/month was stupid.  I also had to jump a few times to the paid tier but it was a waste since I just need the extra request only on sporadic times. So what I basically did was creating a cache on another server and managing the parse error on my apps.

It really sucks, I have an app already relying heavily on Parse and another one in the works :frowning:

Still, we have 1 year to switch, they’ll shutdown in jan 2017.

Anyone here using Coronium? I was planning to use it but Parse seemed easier to implement, more reliable and stable, since it was a FB owned company (guess what I was damn wrong…). Any impression?

Also… this would be a great moment for Corona to show a little of their Corona Clouds

As for Corona Cloud, wasn’t there an attempt on it a few years ago and then they shut it down?

Yes it was. I think at the time they also bought another company for the backend ( https://coronalabs.com/blog/2012/12/13/coronifying-the-cloud-corona-labs-acquires-game-minion/ ) but not really sure what happened.

Since Corona hired Develephant (who made Coronium) I guess the base of the new Clouds will be Coronium? 

I haven’t tried it so I’m not sure how it performs, but the Parse plugin by Develephant is really well made (and with great documentation)… I’m positive we’ll see something cool for Cloud if he’s working on it.

I did a heap of research into authorization API services, cloud storage etc and said no to the lot.  I prefer to run my own server that I manage myself on https://www.digitalocean.com

If you have not seen http://www.c9.io check out my guide here as it is a cloud based IDE that allows you to SSH to your server and resume from anywhere.  I have a few digital ocean servers and can ramp up to multiple cores and only get charged by the hour.  I get snapshots and live backups and access to whatever I want.

My guide on Connecting C9.io connecting to Digital Ocean.

A have a few more guides here http://fearby.com/

As for Cloud databases I prefer http://cloudant.com from IBM ( check out my corona guides here and here on talking to cloudant).

Cloudant DBaaS 101

Saving to Cloudant DBaaS from Corona SDK

I am developing my own API behind a secure SSL and NodeJS server along with PHP for account info and Cloudant CouchDB  for larger data generated in apps.  I’d be happy to continue sharing code.

There seems to be a little light at the end of the tunnel. Parse is making their servers open source, anyone can host and use the Parse API. Hopefully there will be a third party host that picks this up. Thanks for sharing your links Simon, I’ll definitely check them out and follow your development. It’s good to know there are other options.

Thanks a lot Simon!