RE Privacy Policy Concerns: Turn Corona Data Collection OFF!

Solar2D General Questions/Discussion
#41

Now i am freaked out! I am using Flurry on my first app (in review right now) Do i need a privacy policy or can I just be fine with Flurry having its own policy? By the way, where do you put that policy text? I first thought to put the text in the App EULA section on iTunes but but I do not think it is related to the privacy policy that we are talking about here.

By the way, is it possible to turn off Flurry remotely (on their web site) or do I need to change my code and re-sent to Apple for review again. Please say NO!

Thanks.

Mo

EDIT: I am really thinking about rejecting my binary and remove all thing Flurry and resend to Apple for review…Unless I can find a way to stop the app from sending analytics without changing my code. It just would delay my app review since I want to release 12/19/2012 Is it worth it to do? [import]uid: 100814 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134524[/import]

#42

Technically you don’t even need a privacy policy and Apple will approve your app (unless there is a different problem). I think this will change in the future with the Californian law and other things putting pressure on Apple. But right now you don’t need anything.

I recommend making one though, and making it available at least on a website. There is no rule that you even have to have it IN the app. 90% of the Apps don’t even have a privacy policy. [import]uid: 160288 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134529[/import]

#43

I have Flurry enabled in order to collect custom event data so I know how my customers are using features in the app. I’m not intentionally collecting or transmitting UUIDs, names, email addresses, phone numbers, GPS location, etc. but I could find no documentation on what data is actually being transmitted by the simple act of enabling Flurry or the Corona dashboard.

So how can I draft a meaningful privacy policy if I don’t know what data is being collected by my own app? Once collected how it is being used? I would appreciate some official and detailed documentation on what data is being collected by Coronalabs and/or Flurry so that I may be able to create a privacy policy that means what it says.

Thanks! [import]uid: 9422 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134532[/import]

#44

I agree with you Stephen, but more important I want to be able to decide if I want statistics being sent to Corona.
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#45

Thanks cspense. I kind of agreeing with you that i am sure only few apps have privacy policy. I also noticed just now that the itunes app page has a privacy policy URL box:

[lua]Privacy Policy URL (Optional)

“…A URL that links to your company’s privacy policy. Privacy policies are recommended for all apps collecting user or device related data, and required for apps that offer auto-renewable or free subscriptions, or as otherwise required by law…”[/lua]

So Apple is already providing a place to put a a link to page. I also find this link about using maybe the EULA section for privacy message.

http://blog.privacychoice.org/2011/10/25/how-do-i-include-a-privacy-policy-in-my-app-store-and-itunes-listings/

I may simply wait for Corona to come up with a standard PP and stick it in the EULA section of my app on iTunes.

Mo

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#46

@cspence

Just want to respond to the not needing it in your app comment above. Delta is currently being sued by CA for ONLY having it on their website, not in there app. So it seems CA is going to be very picky about this. Now if your app isn’t downloaded millions of times, you probably have nothing to worry about ATM. A year from now? Anyone’s guess.

My best advice to all. Just go overboard in your preparations. If you collect data create a policy. Any third party’s involved, provide links to their privacy policies. Better safe than sorry. [import]uid: 56820 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134535[/import]

#47

I think the best thing for all developers using Corona is if they set up a privacy policy regarding the use and the data collecting for all the statistics sent. They know best.

This way we can append it to your privacy policies and be safe. [import]uid: 70003 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134537[/import]

#48

Hello guys,

Can we just (in case of IOS app) simply put this link to the Coronalabs privacy policy URL box on iTunes and call it a day?
Here the link:

http://www.coronalabs.com/privacy-policy/privacy-policy-for-app-users/

and here some FAQ I found in this web site:

[lua] Do you have a Privacy Policy for the data you collect via Corona Analytics?

Yes - our Privacy Policy for App Users explains the data we collect via Corona Analytics. If you are a Corona developer, you can link to this privacy policy from your website.[/lua]

It looks like a pretty current PP (June 7,2012)

What do you think? It does not address the device side…

Mo [import]uid: 100814 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134538[/import]

#49

Being sued maybe, but not necessarily means they will lose. It is a touchy area right now, and it’s just going to get worse as politicians look to make their name by putting something new on the books. This is low hanging fruit for them, nothing more. No one gives a damn as no one really reads them anyway. It’s just a mark on their belt, that’s all.

As far as I have seen, having it in app and on the website, there hasn’t been any documentation it has to be in app. Ideally it is in app, but maybe putting it in the app store listing would be a good solution.

I’m sure there are lawsuits, and there will be more. But it really is up in the air right now.

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#50

Agreed. When/if they go after Zynga or Popcap, then I think the rest of us can get truely worried. Delta is dealing with identity information (name, address, maybe even credit card info) and most any entertainment app is not going to go into that territory. [import]uid: 56820 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134544[/import]

#51

+16T Jay and kRona [import]uid: 40033 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134601[/import]

#52

Hey Everyone,

Just an update on this. As mentioned above, if you have (or write up) a simple privacy policy, you can point within it to:
http://www.coronalabs.com/privacy-policy/privacy-policy-for-app-users/

This is the privacy policy we put in place regarding the data we may collect from end users’ devices. I say “may” because it is up to you (the developers of the apps) if you turn it off or not.

I am now working with our attorneys around potentially making available a template for Corona developers to use. I’m hoping it won’t be an issue, but lawyers are always very sensitive and the issue is that this may be able to be interpreted as us giving some sort of legal advice (which obviously we can’t do). I’m pushing to do this and will hopefully have another update soon.

Thanks,

David [import]uid: 10668 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134641[/import]

#53

Can we make sure it’s as plain English as possible and cut the legalese down to a minimum - that way we can easily adapt it to any other services we have/offer?

Also does this rumoured legislation affect developers outside of the USA - I can’t see how America continues to try to enforce internet laws on the entire world. [import]uid: 33275 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134648[/import]

#54

@DavidRangel

Thanks a lot! Would it be enough (like I asked earlier) to simply put that Coronalabs PP link into the iTunes privacy policy box URL? (which seems to be optional) Do we need a notification in the app itself? Also, is using Flurry covered by the link you shared or do we need to make a separate privacy policy for them as well (or at the minimum show somewhere the link to their policy)?

This is very unfortunate. We have a many stuff to worry about when developing an app and this issue just add to pile!

Thanks again for keeping us inform.

Mo [import]uid: 100814 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134706[/import]

#55

@. J.A. Whye

HAHAAAA YEAH!!! You rock.

Total BS it is, that’s for sure.

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#56

Iubenda.com offers a privacy policy service:
https://www.iubenda.com/

But we do need to specify exactly what gets collected from the services we implement and from the ones we can’t remove.

David, it would be great if the Corona privacy template made this info available.
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#57

@DavidRangel

“So we are going to ask our attorneys to develop a privacy policy template that we can make available to Corona developers. The idea is that you would take this doc, customize it in certain easy ways, and you would have a good privacy policy to post on your site.”

I think that is a fantastic offer, really very nice of you guys. [import]uid: 8139 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134514[/import]

#58

Now i am freaked out! I am using Flurry on my first app (in review right now) Do i need a privacy policy or can I just be fine with Flurry having its own policy? By the way, where do you put that policy text? I first thought to put the text in the App EULA section on iTunes but but I do not think it is related to the privacy policy that we are talking about here.

By the way, is it possible to turn off Flurry remotely (on their web site) or do I need to change my code and re-sent to Apple for review again. Please say NO!

Thanks.

Mo

EDIT: I am really thinking about rejecting my binary and remove all thing Flurry and resend to Apple for review…Unless I can find a way to stop the app from sending analytics without changing my code. It just would delay my app review since I want to release 12/19/2012 Is it worth it to do? [import]uid: 100814 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134524[/import]

#59

Technically you don’t even need a privacy policy and Apple will approve your app (unless there is a different problem). I think this will change in the future with the Californian law and other things putting pressure on Apple. But right now you don’t need anything.

I recommend making one though, and making it available at least on a website. There is no rule that you even have to have it IN the app. 90% of the Apps don’t even have a privacy policy. [import]uid: 160288 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134529[/import]

#60

I have Flurry enabled in order to collect custom event data so I know how my customers are using features in the app. I’m not intentionally collecting or transmitting UUIDs, names, email addresses, phone numbers, GPS location, etc. but I could find no documentation on what data is actually being transmitted by the simple act of enabling Flurry or the Corona dashboard.

So how can I draft a meaningful privacy policy if I don’t know what data is being collected by my own app? Once collected how it is being used? I would appreciate some official and detailed documentation on what data is being collected by Coronalabs and/or Flurry so that I may be able to create a privacy policy that means what it says.

Thanks! [import]uid: 9422 topic_id: 33722 reply_id: 134532[/import]