FTC statement re privacy and kids

The recent report by FTC will be worrying for parents.

http://mashable.com/2012/12/10/ftc-privacy-childrens-apps/

Is there anything within CoronaSDK analytics or their partner programs that might cause us some concern on the privacy front?
Should we be referring to something because we develop in Corona?

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Yes, there are other concerns – Namely that Corona enables several permissions and includes various 3rd party libraries regardless of whether your app actually uses them. We have been asking Corona for over a year for these to only be included if the app actually uses them – but it is either a low priority or they are ignoring us because nothing is happening with it.

From an end user perspective, if I say my app is totally self contained and doesn’t need internet access it seems disingenuous when they find out the app requires internet connectivity and has ad libraries, analytics libraries, and who knows what else.

It also seems disingenuous when you create a privacy policy that is now being required by California and others and users again find out your app is loaded with stuff you “supposedly” don’t use. It is a bit much to ask anybody to take your word on this stuff. “Well, yeah the app has analytics code but we don’t use it. Really. We promise it doesn’t send usage stats back to a server.”

My app needs none of these permissions yet I have to jump through hoops to remove them:

<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET"><br> <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE"></uses-permission><br> <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE"></uses-permission><br>
I don’t recall the complete list of 3rd party libs but they include Flurry and inMobi.

If you don’t think it matters check out the reviews for Knots 3D on Amazon while it was Free app of the Day. http://www.amazon.com/Nynix-LLC-Knots-3D/product-reviews/B00701L5XS/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

A discussion on how to remove this crap can be found in several forum threads including this one: https://developer.coronalabs.com/forum/2012/09/18/still-looking-currently-working-way-remove-extra-android-permissions

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Please see this blog post on the matter:

http://www.coronalabs.com/blog/2012/12/04/corona-developers-and-privacy-policies/

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Yes, there are other concerns – Namely that Corona enables several permissions and includes various 3rd party libraries regardless of whether your app actually uses them. We have been asking Corona for over a year for these to only be included if the app actually uses them – but it is either a low priority or they are ignoring us because nothing is happening with it.

From an end user perspective, if I say my app is totally self contained and doesn’t need internet access it seems disingenuous when they find out the app requires internet connectivity and has ad libraries, analytics libraries, and who knows what else.

It also seems disingenuous when you create a privacy policy that is now being required by California and others and users again find out your app is loaded with stuff you “supposedly” don’t use. It is a bit much to ask anybody to take your word on this stuff. “Well, yeah the app has analytics code but we don’t use it. Really. We promise it doesn’t send usage stats back to a server.”

My app needs none of these permissions yet I have to jump through hoops to remove them:

<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET"><br> <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE"></uses-permission><br> <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE"></uses-permission><br>
I don’t recall the complete list of 3rd party libs but they include Flurry and inMobi.

If you don’t think it matters check out the reviews for Knots 3D on Amazon while it was Free app of the Day. http://www.amazon.com/Nynix-LLC-Knots-3D/product-reviews/B00701L5XS/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

A discussion on how to remove this crap can be found in several forum threads including this one: https://developer.coronalabs.com/forum/2012/09/18/still-looking-currently-working-way-remove-extra-android-permissions

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Please see this blog post on the matter:

http://www.coronalabs.com/blog/2012/12/04/corona-developers-and-privacy-policies/

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Thanks Rob, but what if we develop apps for kids. The new FTC privacy laws will crack down on the data that CoronaLabs is collecting “under the hood” which must be disclosed in the privacy policy. This could be extremely bad for those developers developing apps for the 0 - 12 age category. What is CoronaLabs doing to remove these violations? I will be looking for other development tools if this is not rectified. [import]uid: 8780 topic_id: 33875 reply_id: 135622[/import]

Thanks Rob, but what if we develop apps for kids. The new FTC privacy laws will crack down on the data that CoronaLabs is collecting “under the hood” which must be disclosed in the privacy policy. This could be extremely bad for those developers developing apps for the 0 - 12 age category. What is CoronaLabs doing to remove these violations? I will be looking for other development tools if this is not rectified. [import]uid: 8780 topic_id: 33875 reply_id: 135622[/import]