It would be awesome to support Windows 8 metro app deployment. In august will be the third fighter in the tablet battle (but also desktop & mobile with the same app)
I dont know any sdk deploying windows 8, it could be a great advantage to corona users (and for Ansca, being the first sdk, and maybe the only one deploying to win, ios & android) [import]uid: 131209 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 324051[/import]
Corona has a lot to fix and add until it can even worry about this. [import]uid: 7116 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 96972[/import]
no windows 8 metro support even if stable… still in development. influx…etc…
c
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@C man,
why not let the users know that if Microsoft does not allow for a C++ based framework, Corona or for that matter any framework cannot build for the Windows Phone/Windows 8.
For the last so much time, Ansca has been keeping hope alive that there could be a possibility, and the fact is that unless Microsoft has to offer the C++ entry point.
Please do not give false hopes and short live the expectations. [import]uid: 3826 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97010[/import]
Hey Jayant, how many times have you said you will be leaving this forum once and for all?
Please do not give false hopes and short live the expectations.
And I said “no windows 8 metro support even if stable” where is the false hope in that. No means no.
C. [import]uid: 24 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97020[/import]
Where did he say he was leaving? [import]uid: 7116 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97021[/import]
@AlexGreene - just surfing over the forum`s search results looking for others subjects and I Still can see one of that here (as you asked above): http://developer.anscamobile.com/forum/2011/08/24/why-developers-stop-helping-open-letter
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Ah Carlos,
The love you show (like this) keeps a lot of users from leaving…
Is this one of your/Ansca strategies to keep the gullible users and try to herd out the ones that question?
As for the misleading, it has been over a year where you have been promising that you are in discussion with Microsoft, while the fact remains that unless Microsoft has a C++ base, no amount of discussions are going to help, and when they do allow for C++ then it will even other frameworks that are not in consultation with Microsoft.
@Rodrigo, thanks for that link, I think comment #7 on that link you shared, Carlos has expressed himself, which is surprisingly quite contrary to his comment and hostility on this one.
So Carlos, if users do not question you want them around, is that how it works with these Forums and at Ansca? Nice customer Service.
Co-Founder asks user why they do not quit their forums and stop using their products 
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I think there’s a huge effort to keep Corona working properly and adding features for iOS and Android let alone people continually asking for new platform support for very new and not proven nor popular devices.
I can see a future where, if Ansca complied and added Metro support and Playbook support etc and people will be complaining that Ansca no longer rolls out new features fast enough. They are not going to spread themselves too thin. That’d be a catastrophe!
Ansca does very well supporting iOS and the many variations of Android and keeping things working across the two platforms. I do no think they need to add other unproved and immature platforms.
I’m happy with the two main ones currently supported and applaude Ansca for killing bugs swiftly and adding in new, wonderful features to the SDK.
I think many underestimate the effort required to keep things stable and working nicely on the Android platform as it is.
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Hey Jayant. You still here!?!?!?! I thought you left already? I mean you yourself made more than a share of promises to us the community to leave, why can’t you keep your promise? Don’t request something from others that you can’t do yourself, or perhaps that’s a common practice with you?
Honestly man, what happened to you in your childhood that made you so bitter, deceitful, and two-faced? Did you have fifteen siblings and struggled for attention, or did your mom drop you on your head a couple of times? Which one is it? I know a normal person doesn’t bite the hand that feeds him. YOU MUST BE from another planet, because on this planet people raise their kids to be kind, smart, and treat others with the same respect they want to be treated with — but, if perhaps your upbringing didn’t cause this major malfunction in your brain, maybe someone gave you a really bad advice as far as how to run a business. You don’t stab and jab, and use personal insults against your competition to further your venture; that spells a lawsuit, and if Ansca didn’t present you with a cease or desist letter already I’d be happy to provide them with free legal representation to curb your immature and out of this world behavior.
If you fail to get it thru your thick skull that this is 1) inappropriate 2) immature, and has solid grounds for legal action you will have another thing coming.
As far as using Ansca to run your business; if it’s so bad, unstable, and ran by a bunch of idiots piece of software, supported by a moron community - why can’t you create your own? You keep praising yourself how smart, and how many connections/clients you have - surprise us by creating your own SDK, or perhaps you’ll give us the best gift of all that will keep on giving and leave this forum once and for all. Can you keep your promise?
ANSCA !!! Please stop this moronic disconnect, as amusing as it was as first, it’s now getting out of hand. If you need legal help to curb this jackass, just say a word.
Ps. I am not involved with Ansca, nor I know anyone there, but I’m sick at tired of seeing this individual here
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@pitwreck,
Hiding behind your “true self” and taking pot shots, very mature… [import]uid: 3826 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97440[/import]
Cant we all just get along
I think there was a little mis-communication between Carlos and Jayant. Naturally this is expected in these forums with the so many countries and languages.
I dont think Jayant was attacking Ansca or Carlos if you read carefully he was just saying it would be near impossible to support Windows 8 because of the C++ entry point.
Carlos post was a little hostile, which I understand too. I’m sure he is probably super stressed. I mean this guy has alot on his plate. And I thought I had alot on my plate. If carlos walked in my shoes it would be a vacation to him. So Jayants feelings probably got hurt. I know my feelings would be hurt. Naturally out of anger Jayant posted another post attacking Carlos and Ansca. Then people have to jump in and attack Jaynt some more.
Yes , Jaynt has had some hmmm how would you say stern posts and said that he was leaving from time to time. Maybe he is just a stern guy.
I do know though besides Jayants Stern Posts and emotionally reactive Posts. This guy has contributed to the community he took his time and made tutorials ect. I wont even do that at least not now. Time is of the essence I need to be coding not doing tutorials.
In my opinion
Ansca is doing a great Job. I mean they are number 1. That alone speaks for itself. I remember getting on the forums and only seeing 200 developers online maybe less a little over a year later there are 700 during daytime hours US. Holy SH*!. This is Anscas company let them run it how they want. I’m sure they appreciate constructive critisim but attacking them wont help anything.
I do have on gripe though. It might not be anything. I might not have enough information about the subject. Why cant indie Android developers build for Amazon? If the apps are android then I dont see any problem. I mean its hard enough to try and make it in the android market alone. Having amazon there would give us indie android devs a little better push and balance it out a little between apple. Thats really all that I have to pick you guys about. With love ofcourse And once again its your company you guys run it how you want.
This community is great including Jayant. Everyone needs a little seasoning in there food right? Well I guess that would be Jayant. We are like a family here at least thats the vibe I get. We have are fights just like any other family. But in the end we are all still family.
Lesson of the day. Posts and Emails can throw a totally diffrent vibe than what the sender was trying to get accross. At least thats what they told me in college.
Sorry for the typos. Up for 28 hours now. I need sleep.
Anyways group hug
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@jayant - not hiding, I just don’t want my name smeared all over your blogs for not reason, just like you’ve done to others who don’t bow to your pathetic attempts of gaining respect. You claim to be the savior of the community here and in the same time you turn around and bash everyone who you come across. So if you talk about hiding you should take a look in the mirror. You are one of the most pathetic creatures I happen to know.
You write like what? Once a day about Ansca and Ansca staff taking personal jabs with information provided to you in confidence? YOU ARE the definition of a backstabber. You only try to portray yourself as a confident individual here, but in reality I bet you shiver every time a car passes you by. I’m also willing to bet all I have that in reality you would be nothing more than a pathetic loser who sits in his parents basement and writes useless blogs because in real life no one wants to give you a time of day.
Let’s just say that I’m saving you time and sanity, so you wouldn’t have to come up with character names for me while you try to come up with a new post and how to stab me. I don’t think you have any more time on your hands to smear anyone else - unless you employ people to write for you now?
@method - while jayant did contribute in the past it was never out of the goodness of his heart as he so claims, he only did so to gain something, I don’t think “helping others” was ever in this creatures nature. He’s rotten, always been, and always will be.
I’m sorry I steered this thread away, but I hate backstabbers wholeheartedly. I also wanted to call him out on his promise to leave the community which he keeps breaking, but has no problem on calling others on their promises. [import]uid: 137668 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97449[/import]
I know that I’m going to regret getting into this debate (fight). I shouldn’t do it, but I have one simple, honest question…
Who has a Windows Phone? Anybody?
I did a quick Bing search and found this headline:
“Windows Phone to Gain 6.2% Market Share in 2012”
OK, so that’s just one headline, but basically when it comes to apps (Corona being among several tools/SDKs which developers can use to produce them), Windows Phone might reach 6.2% market share this year (that figure is a projection, nothing more). Basically, when it comes to phones/apps, MSFT is in the position that Apple was for over 3 decades in the OS realm… there, but hardly noticeable.
So why should Ansca put much effort (if any) to support Windows Phone apps? I respect Jayant and all the contributions he’s made to Corona, the forums, etc… but I would ask you Jayant, why are you so keen on developing apps for a tiny piece of the app pie? We all have our biases… some of us are Apple fan-boys, some of us prefer Android, others hate Google, some hate Apple and their “totalitarian” policies. But when you look at Microsoft, they have outright failed at earning a share of the mobile market. That is a fact backed up by sales and numbers. They still dominate the OS world, the server world, the business app world, and they have become a major player in consoles with the XBox 360 and XBox Arcade. For those things I salute them. I am NOT anti-Microsoft; I’m simply pointing out some basic observations.
Again, why should Ansca support Windows Phone? We (developers) have been waiting and begging for some core improvements to Corona in general, several of which have come in the past few months (off-screen culling, image sheets, etc.). And so, Corona gets better every day and most developers appreciate that… and reap the benefits of it. There are still milestones to cross (improved physics system, hint hint ), but I think few developers in these forums care one lick about Windows Phone.
I have to support Carlos on this one, and I think I’ve explained why. Please feel free to disagree.
Respectfully,
Brent Sorrentino
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As a long time Windows developer, I don’t really see the appeal of Windows Metro, and I don’t have a Windows phone.
BUT:
Windows 8 for the desktop now presents itself as Metro environment by default.
And yet, ‘normal’ apps still run. (Of course… otherwise Microsoft would be shooting itself)
Heres a thought:
On the Mac, Ansca are considering wrapping the simulator in something that will make it appear to be a stand alone app. (Im sure its more complicated than that, but if the simulator didn’t say ‘Corona’ on the title bar, we’d be pretty close already, yes?)
Surely the same would be true of the Windows 8 desktop?
We may not worry too much about Windows mobile phones, but wouldn’t people want something that can run on the million desktops which will get Windows 8 next year, even if its ‘just’ a modified standalone simulator.
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@brent, I never said anything about developing on the WP7 recently. It was something that was a big deal last year and it did not take off. All I said was the way most of the lua based frameworks work are with a C++ wrapper and because Microsoft only offers a C# entry point, there’s not much that can be done, by anyone.
@pitwreck, you need counseling, you have so much pent up aggression that you are displaying while you are not even related to Ansca in any manner. How do you even know what information I am provided and if it is in confidence or not, whilst you are totally unrelated to Ansca and just joined the forums a couple of days ago?
I guess you enjoy this, I don’t so I am not wishing to engage in a show of your limited vocabulary and life story.
@method, thank you, I wish that some other users could at least read what was said in the post. [import]uid: 3826 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97486[/import]
@ Jayant No Problem. I did miss a little last night when reading it does look like you pushed carlos a little with this comment
" Please do not give false hopes and short live the expectations."
Which I understand too, and I also understand carlos’s reaction. You dont want to push someone who busts his ass for all of us.
Trust me being a lead at my daytime job I have ran into simaler issues with associates. When I’m doing all I can for them and they still have negative feed back. It kind of hurts my feelings too. After all I’m doing all that I possibly can.
Anyways I love all of you guys. Including the misfit child Jayant. lol
We all should so totally have a party. Like a kegger or something. To bad we are all spread accross the world.
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@Jayant - funniest thing of it all is that you know me just as well as I know you — as we’ve exchanged numerous messages in which you shared with me very PRIVATE and PERSONAL things about others. Since that moment I decided not to share any more personal things with you because if you have no problem telling me things about others I can only guess you would do the same to me and try to backstab me like you did to others.
As far as my limited vocabulary, well, pot calling the kettle black? You know this is not my first, second, nor third language, in fact it is my 4th language. At least my accent isn’t as thick as a sequoia tree stump. So please don’t go there when it comes to language we both know what’s up
Now lets focus on some facts since you so requested them;
I’m the one who needs counseling? Really? I’ve seen the hours you have spent on blog posts devoted entirely to attacking Peach Pellen. I’ve seen you call her various vicious names and telling insane lies about her. Those who saw the Camelot post (all 4 of them, probably) would know just how messed up you are. You actually spend that much time and energy on attempting to bully this fantastic person who has done nothing but good for any of us and you have the nerve to tell me that I need counseling for my aggression? No one who has read anything you have ever written about that girl would see you as any kind of a man at all - but hey, jealous people do childish things.
You have threatened to leave the forum and stop using Corona a million times. You do it almost weekly now!!! (Yes, I see your blogs, a few of us email them to each other and laugh at you.) Do you think any other forum would want you? For every useful post you make you post ten that are insane, bullying, self-promoting or all three. The fact Ansca has allowed you to even stay here this long IS A JOKE, you should have been banned the moment you started attacking individuals rather than the company itself.
You constantly whine that people don’t like what you are saying because you criticize Ansca, frankly that’s BS. No one gives a damn if you want to do that, we may not agree but it makes no difference. What people take issue with is the personal attacks, the deliberate propagation of lies and the fact you choose to pretend you don’t understand things (like Carlos saying “no support”) in order to start arguments based on things that do not even exist. Complain about Ansca all you want but when you start telling lies and attack individuals then no, that isn’t anyone trying to silence your freedom of speech it is simply a group of people who know harassment, bullying and personal attacks should never be tolerated, especially not by some screwed up old man gunning for a great man like Carlos or a young woman like Peach.
For anyone interested in how screwed up Jayant really is just search for his bash blogs which he conveniently hides from here in order to preserve his “protector and voice of the community”.
ANSCA!!! How do you guys put up with personal attacks from this creature? I know some things can be brushed off, but this will only intensify. I think Jayant’s 15 minutes of fame are up! [import]uid: 137668 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97572[/import]
Just ban this guy already. The only reason he is still here is to troll, and constantly search for excuses to post links to his malware-infested blog wherein he slams Corona and promotes competing platforms. And then whine on Twitter when said links are removed.
Contrary to the premise of the thread referred to above, these boards are a mostly positive place where people help each other every day. There is ALMOST no hint of malice or toxicity.
Whatever inside information on Ansca “Oz Apps” might have, surely it’s worth letting it spill to rid our basket of this bad apple. [import]uid: 70391 topic_id: 24051 reply_id: 97601[/import]
Jayant
Your fifteen minutes of fame are up.
You are ban from our forum.
We, wish you best of luck and enjoy your time off our forum…
Carlos.
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